Handbags at dawn
Next week it is angels on the head of a pin.
As with all email correspondence, you really have to start at the bottom with the oldest message. (Thanks to Deep Throat for forwarding this exchange.)
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From: Cllr. Donald Manford [mailto:dmanford@cne-siar.gov.uk]
Sent: 31 July 2008 16:03
To: Cllr. Angus McCormack; Cllr. Angus Campbell
Cc: CNES - Members
Subject: RE: Article in last week's Stornoway Gazette
Angus
You appear not to have read my attachment nor does it appear you have read the decision report.
I am happy that you at least accept my right to a view and I accept your right to disagree with it. You will note from the article I have written that it was for the Ward section of my local paper and to my own electorate. I trust you now accept my right to do that.
I am required to respond because not to do so would allow you to contend that I accept your view, which I do not. However a number of members have advised me that they are very unhappy with continued correspondence in this manner. So while I am happy to receive and respond to your communications I do not propose to circulate further correspondence unless I feel it merits it.
Kind regards, Donald.
From: Cllr. Angus McCormac
Sent: 31 July 2008 10:37
To:
Cc: CNES - Members
Subject: RE: Article in last wee
Good morning Donald
I fear that you misinterpret my position. I have absolutely no problem with you having a view of your own and voicing that view. Where you misrepresent the CNES position, as in the Stornoway Gazette article, then that is quite inappropriate.
In regard to CNES decisions, I am quite clear on where my responsibility lies. As Vice Chair of Audit and Scrutiny I act corporately in the interests of the Comhairle and the public. Generally spea
However I feel that I am bound by the corporate decision and that I should see
I made it clear in my letter on Sunday Observance that if it were decided that the CNES position should change that I would accept that decision. On LIT you do not accept that. I do not oppose dissent but if you are in a position where you are to represent the CNES then you have a duty to do that or resign. You appear to want to have your ca
Finally on the subject of courtesy I should have to say that I do not believe that I have in any way been discourteous. If you do not want criticism, do not write to the press. This exchange could just have easily ta
Kindest Regards
Angus
From:
Sent: 31 July 2008 10:31
To:
Cc: CNES - Members
Subject: RE: Article in last wee
Angus
Before you concur so heartily with sentiments you might consider ta
Let us examine the implications of what you consider, corporate responsibility.
A Cllr ta
Let us examine another issue. This council has a Sabbath observance policy which you have recently given very public support to. As with every policy it has to come before council for reconsideration. Should that be changed by a majority vote, would you then become an advocate of Sunday Sailing? Surely not but by your own interpretation of corporate governance, you would have to.
Cllr Munro perfectly honorably in my view, still opposes Sound of Harris crossing on the Sabbath; the Comhairle does not want it withdrawn. Should you be calling on Morag to follow the course you advocate for me? I would not support you in that. There are many more examples.
The right to dissent is in the constitution for a very good reason, fortunately those who have gone before us thought deeply about how they wished our people should be represented. Particularly in your role as vice chair of Audit and Scrutiny you should develop a deeper insight in to your own responsibility.
In order to properly be allowed to represent our electorate councilors must be able to continue to register dissent without fear or threat, the alternative is not a democratic option.
Again I feel it would have been courteous for you to have raised these issues directly with me in the first instance. As you have circulated your communication I feel obligated to do li
Kind regards, Donald.
From:
Sent: 29 July 2008 16:40
To:
Cc: CNES - Members
Subject: RE: Article in last wee
Angus
I heartily concur with your sentiments. I hope your letter has gone to the Gazette to redress the balance. However I doubt that it will get a half page spread.
I thin
Just for the record, the views of the Comhairle do not necessarily represent my personal views but I accepted them as a reasonable corporate response.
Regards
Angus
From:
Sent: 29 July 2008 17:28
To:
Cc: CNES - Members
Subject: Article in last wee
Dear Donald
I was very disappointed to read in the Stornoway Gazette your comments on our consultation response for Local Income Tax. Although I was not altogether surprised, your comments certainly are not a true reflection of the position of this Comhairle.
The starting position of the Comhairle is that we want a fairer form of taxation for our people. To try and present a picture of anything different, is, to my mind, at best insincere.
One of the concerns of the Comhairle is that the replacement system of local income tax would reduce the overall resources available to the
We have made it very clear that we are not happy with the present system. We want to see those that are unfairly penalised recompensed but we cannot as a Comhairle argue for less resources coming to these islands. If you pursue this line of thought then I challenge you to identify where you are going to ma
Everybody accepts that people don’t li
A couple of points in the article give me particular concern. It is totally incorrect to state that the Comhairle wants to discontinue consultation on local taxation – on the contrary we specifically stated that we wish to contribute to an early discussion on securing a fairer local tax for
You have done your fellow Councillors a disservice with your comments in the Gazette article. The process that we went through of consultation on a response was as open as I believe you would see in any local authority in
The Comhairle is committed to continuing to wor
Regards
Angus
9 comments:
Poor old Angus Campbell. All those petrol fumes have finally gone to his head.
Let the witch hunt for Judas begin.
Who will offer the 30 pieces to oust the grass. Which 1 of the 31 true fellows betrayed their fellow person.
DM himself, PM why wasnt I invited, Annie I was invited or side kick JM. Or is "deepthroat" a CnES IT hack. Is he pro or anti SNP or just another dissolutioned employee of CnES.
Donald, don`t let the ba....ds grind you down.
What a shower! Nobody trusts the Comhairle any more and no wonder. They're a disgrace.
As a Labour supporter I have to say that I agree with anon.11.17AM. I bet our MP and MSP are delighted with this pointless spat.
What is the literal translation of Comhairle - is it simply Commitee?
What Toad of Toad Hall is concerned about is that he personally will have to pay a hell of a lot more tax if local income tax arrives - sod us plebs who might just get a reduction in the tax burden.
Good grief there are still Labour supporters out there!?
Councillors Angus McCormack and Angus Campbell express a sound logic.
If you not agree with Comhairle policy – resign.
So, Scotlands governing party is the SNP, and Local Income Tax is their official policy. Therefore according to Messrs McCormack & Campbell – any dissenting Comhairle Councillor should resign. So be it!
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