How to avoid arrest...
Remember the arrest of General Pinochet in 1998 for human rights abuses, murder and torture?
That set a nice precedent didn't it? No longer can you flit from country to country free of any pangs of guilt and enjoy the high life, despite arrest warrants out for you.
Er, except in London it seems. Even where there is a current arrest warrant out for you. And when the Police know where you are. And have you cornered.
The BBC are reporting that an Israeli General escaped capture in those very circumstances in 2005 by the simple expedient of refusing to come of the El-Al plane on the runway at Heathrow.
Due to the concern that the Police might not be able to legally board the plane (!) and due to the possibility that there may be some (illegal!) guns on the plane with his security men, the Police let the plane take-off with the General inside.
No thought of blocking the plane's taxiway until the toilets backed up and the drinks cabinet was empty and the General obeyed the law like everyone else.
Instead, as a wanted criminal, there was a subsequent apology from the then Home Secretary, Jack Straw, for the disruption that the whole unpleasant business caused the General.
So know you know the drill, when the Constabulary are in hot pursuit. Just refuse to come out and claim you have illegal guns and you're home and dry.
A known criminal not wanted by the Police
That set a nice precedent didn't it? No longer can you flit from country to country free of any pangs of guilt and enjoy the high life, despite arrest warrants out for you.
Er, except in London it seems. Even where there is a current arrest warrant out for you. And when the Police know where you are. And have you cornered.
The BBC are reporting that an Israeli General escaped capture in those very circumstances in 2005 by the simple expedient of refusing to come of the El-Al plane on the runway at Heathrow.
Due to the concern that the Police might not be able to legally board the plane (!) and due to the possibility that there may be some (illegal!) guns on the plane with his security men, the Police let the plane take-off with the General inside.
No thought of blocking the plane's taxiway until the toilets backed up and the drinks cabinet was empty and the General obeyed the law like everyone else.
Instead, as a wanted criminal, there was a subsequent apology from the then Home Secretary, Jack Straw, for the disruption that the whole unpleasant business caused the General.
So know you know the drill, when the Constabulary are in hot pursuit. Just refuse to come out and claim you have illegal guns and you're home and dry.
A known criminal not wanted by the Police
11 comments:
God, where to begin?
First, the warrant was instigated by a PRIVATE party who happened to be acting on behalf of a very dubious allegation. Government has since APOLOGISED to the Israeli goverment over this absurd attempt at 'private justice' amd is looking to prevent future instances of 'rogue warrants'.
The so-called 'war criminal' is in fact a hero of Entebbe; a man who coordinated the rescue of some 7000Ethiopian Jews; a man who has fought for the rights of Bedouin living in Israel. He was, in fact, only in London because he was doing fundraising for a handicapped-services organisation.
Some 'war criminal'. Simple fact of the matter: Almog ordered the demolition of homes from which terror attacks on IDF troops had been launched. Sorry, if you let your home be used as cover and concealment for an attacker, you're not protected by the Geneva Conventions.
Furthermore, there were no 'illegal guns' on the El-Al flight. Israeli security ALWAYS has armed agents on every such flight, for obvious reasons.
Due to the concern that the Police might not be able to legally board the plane (!) and due to the possibility that there may be some (illegal!) guns on the plane with his security men, the Police let the plane take-off with the General inside.
No thought of blocking the plane's taxiway until the toilets backed up and the drinks cabinet was empty and the General obeyed the law like everyone else.
Your anti-Israeli bias is showing through yet again.
'Damn uppity Jooz', eh, Angus?
Oh, yeah. Here's the reaction of the fruitcake idiot who tried to get Almog arrested:
"To cap this madness, Machover has now also called for the arrest of the Israel ambassador – for warning Alog that he was about to be arrested by the forces of a state that appears to have taken leave of its senses."
Moron extraordinaire. Yes, let's just arrest ambassadors, too....
So now it is clear....
+ some arrest warrants are more valid than others
+ you can't be a war criminal if you have done somthing good in the past
+ Travelling with armed guards onto foreign soil in breach of their laws, is perfectly acceptable
+ Armed trolley dollies are acceptable in the UK
I think you protest too much.
I do agree that trying to arrest the Ambassador is madness.
But why was the warrant issued if it was supposedly so flawed.
is this not a case of the police being put into a difficult situation? if they went ahead and arrested him, their was a possibility that some of them could die in the attempt - and since our bobbies are no longer required to give their lives in most situations...
Anon 1:31:
"some arrest warrants are more valid than others"
Um, yes: it's a bit unusual (to say the least) for an arrest warrant to be issued at the behest of a private citizen.
"you can't be a war criminal if you have done somthing good in the past"
No; but it's highly unlikely anyone who not only has done good in the past, but was in London to do good at the time, would be a 'war criminal'. The sum total of the argument was 'the lawyer said that Almog was a "war criminal"; therefore, surely, he was in fact a "war criminal"'.
It's rather scary if you see nothing wrong with this line of thinking.
"Travelling with armed guards onto foreign soil in breach of their laws, is perfectly acceptable"|
Air/sky marshals on flights is perfectly normal practice. And let's be clear: the armed personal security were on the El Al flight; they didn't debark.
Unfortunately, Jews know full well just how little their lives are valued in Europe, so I'm not surprised that their more senior government officials prefer to have armed protection.
"I think you protest too much."
'Six million'. Remember that number, pal.
"But why was the warrant issued if it was supposedly so flawed."
Because the magistrate who issued it is equally moronic, I'd imagine.
BTW, Angus, you might want to remove your 'known criminal' tags from the image, and your text, since General Almog has not been in fact proven to be anything of the sort.
Actually, a private citizen in England and Wales can get an arrest warrant in many circumstances.
A private warrant is every bit as valid a Police one. Normally the individual can execute it, but it this case we should be grateful they did not. They relied on the Police being even handed which they were not.
Actually, a private citizen in England and Wales can get an arrest warrant in many circumstances.
The warrant was based on a personal presumption that the general had committed a 'war crime'--there was, and is, no factual evidence that the destruction of the homes was in fact a 'war crime'.
This is an interesting development: private citizens getting arrest warrants against foreign nationals on any old grounds they like.
Gotta wonder why EU nations haven't bothered to arrest the like of Abbas or Arafat when offered the opportunity.
And let's just see what those so-peaceful, oppressed Gazans have been up to, yes? After all, we're talking 'war crimes' because an Israeli general levelled a few dozen homes from which attacks were being launched.
So let's see what those po' lil' Gazans have been doing that might warrant such a response:
In 2007, some 1500 Qassam rockets were launched from Gaza into Israel. This was AFTER the IDF had left Gaza, which was supposedly the reason for Gazan rage.
So far in 2008, another 400 have been launched into Israel, or approximately 8 per day.
I believe there are war crimes, alright, but not on the Israeli side. Almog ordered some houses demolished; the Gazans are trying to demolish men, women and children.
Gotta wonder how the anti-Israeli crowd in Britain would react if some terrorist group began to lob eight rockets a day onto British soil. Betcha there'd be no protest if British generals reacted decisively.....
I am quite sure their are faults on both sides... Remember there can be war criminality on both sides
I suggest anon 3:11 pm that you read Six Days (How the 1967 War Shaped the Middle East) by BBC Middle East Editor Jeremy Bowen.
This well written book, using first hand accounts, will change your mind about who are the real War Criminals are. Israelis not only started the war illegaly, they even sank an American Spy ship the USS Liberty in the Med so that they could cover up what they were getting up to 300 Americans died in the attack on this ship. It's no wonder the Palestinians behave in the way they do.
Typo on last post it wasn't over 300 it should have read over 30, 34to be precise, with 172 wounded, but because the Americans were 'friends' they chose not to do anything about it!
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