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Saturday, April 07, 2007

Election

Is there actually an election going on somewhere???



It's oh so quiet, apart from Calum MacDonald pressing the flesh on Cromwell St.

62 comments:

Anonymous said...

what a lot of shit

Anonymous said...

The SNP have postered the road between the airport and town, so Alex Salmond can see just how busy they have been. Nowhere else seems to have been done, but I suspect Alex will have other matters on his mind when he comes here tomorrow.

Anonymous said...

It’s not so quiet anymore…………

Tut, tut Mr. MacNeil and with you accusing so many other people of so many other things.

At least he's lucky that he isn't a teacher anymore as that would have made it a sex offenders register issue, being a politician does have some advantages.

Anonymous said...

Two Early Day Motions signed by the now former MP are particularly relevant Warnings on alcoholic drinks and Teenage pregnancies.

His concern about Untouchables should have been about his constituents not old enough to vote.

Anonymous said...

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1259699,00.html

Anonymous said...

Dear Labour sycophants,

Why has a two year old "story" come out a few weeks before an election?

Nobody even got their kit off or had it off. I'd like our current MSP to swear on the bible that he hasn't been naughtier; that'd be interesting...

Anonymous said...

How do you know that no-one had their kit off anon no 6?? Were you there or are you "close" to Mr. MacNeil and he's bragged about the incident to you??
The girls themselves have said that Angus M was being suggestive and that he took some of his clothes off. The poor kids are trying to protect themselves under very difficult circumstances. This is another politician taking advantage of his position of power hoping that poor young girls wouldn't have the gut to expose him.
Let's get it right, he was married at the time with two young children and another on the way AND he had been elected into a position of responsibility. He has always gone about with a holier than thou attitude about everyone else, he should know better. He has no integrity and has used and abused his position. The guy should resign, no questions asked.

Anonymous said...

Anon 6:It is well seen you have no sympathy for this sleasballs family or for the girls or their families. If you think that a married man romping in bed with 2 teenagers who he got drunk(one underage)is proper conduct, I hope you are not married. If you are then if I was your wife I would have no trust in you. I would not be surprised if the Sun and the News of the World start digging that more startiling revelations will be uncovered. He should do the hounorable think as he was asking Blair to do and resign. "Sorry is not a man of honour"

Anonymous said...

I could not agree more - the man should resign. He's been spouting moral issues this, moral issues that - did he think he was untouchable. Locally he is known as incredibly arrogant and this behaviour just proves that! I'll enjoy watching the fall-out but feel sorry for his wife and family.

Anonymous said...

Have some respect anon 6. Does that make it okay if they didn't actually have penetrative sex??!! Think about the families involved and the shame that these people have to live with. Think about Angus MacNeil's poor wife and his 3 children, one of whom is less than 2 years old.
These Islands pride themselves on their high moral values. Can you imagine the headlines that this will attract and ensure that our Islands are remembered for a sleazeball MP who couldn't keep his equipment in his trousers. Great publicity for the tourists eh? Maybe we could have him stuffed and exhibit him in the middle of town.

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Anonymous said...

Let he who is without blame cast the first stone. Aimed both regarding Mr MacNeil and AT Mr MacNeil.
It's election time, folks. Dirty stories will out. A.B. should have realised that this skeleton was bound to come tumbling out of his cupboard. He should have said NO when Alex Salmond asked him to carry the can for the Cash for Honours inquiry. He should have said "Listen, Alex, been a naughty boy, can't do this". A.B.'s career is at best damaged, and at worst kaputt.

Anonymous said...

Touches of Clinton "I did not have a sexual relationship with that woman". Lets wait and see if anything else comes out of this. Oh by the way do you think the police should question him for purchasing drink for someone who was not 18 at the time.

Anonymous said...

Do you think the Gazette will have enough staff to run with this story Angus. This is the reason they were giving for not running the story of you being expelled from your party.

Anonymous said...

Lack of staff, or staff too closely related to the SNP campaign. The Gazette's Chief Reporter's wife is the SNP Chairwoman for the Western Isles.

machaseo said...

anonymous # 6 "Dear Labour sycophants"

Hmmm, not so sure about that...seems to me like one or two SNP rebels have been busy with revelations, eh Angus? (allegedly, allegedly, allegedly).

Anonymous said...

Or staff with more interesting stories to cover than the rantings of a disgruntled councillor. A man who said too much and now has more chips than McCain on his shoulder.

Anonymous said...

Machaseo,
I was wondering when you would come out of the woodwork on this one.
1. Do you really think that Mr MacNeil would divulge this gruesome incident to someone that he didn't even have the courtesy to speak to about Western Isles issues for the last 2 years?
2. I think you will find that the SNP / Angus MacNeil have screwed up themselves on this one with no help from anyone including Angus.

Maybe you could start a conspiracy theory placing Angus in Shetland in July 2005 and plying Angus M with viagra... When will you ever just admit that Angus M is wrong

Anonymous said...

Anon chips: a councillor who is prepared to speak out and take the abuse. I hope he runs again and become Convener.

Anonymous said...

Angus, you timed your expulsion perfectly. I bet you are glad to be disassociated from that bunch!

Keep up the good work.

Anonymous said...

Mach0, knew you'd come running along with a lame excuse. Why does Angus allow you to continue to post such drivel?

Anonymous said...

Hey Macho Man
Politics is politics and it doesn't really matter who revealed this little gem of a story, there is still a guilty party out there who up until now proclaimed to be the second coming.
No pun intended

machaseo said...

I get the feeling that a lot of the anonymouses on this thread are one and the same person...

I wonder who the source for this story was? Not a local journalist surely!? No?! Must have come from somewhere, though Angus, eh? I say once more, revelations??

31 December, 2006: ["I promise to be as irreverent and provocative next year, with some surprise revelations about .... well, you'll find out soon enough."]


p.s. anonymous ad nauseum, carry on ranting by all means (you're damaging Angus and the tiny band of SNP rebels far more than me with your uncooked tripe), but don't expect me to answer. Life's too short for wasting time on people who rant rather than debate. From now on, I shall confine my answers/questions/comments to Angus and people who actually have something to say rather than multi-ranters. Cheerio!

Anonymous said...

my, what a lot of un christian sceptics you are (i would have put synichs - but as you can see i am unsure of the spelling!) no one giving anyone the benefit of 1) the doubt or 2) the fact that he might have repented and the blood of Jesus Christ wipes out sin!

Anonymous said...

i advise anyone reading this to press anonymous6's link for the full story! Interesting that most of the typers are signing themselves anonymous this time... surely not a dirty tricks campaign by labour?

Anonymous said...

Mach0, I so disappointed that we won't be getting the benefit of your wisdom for some time.My life is a void.

MacNeil gets teenagers drunk and trys to hump them and you blame Angus Nicolson?Ever considered any of the few hundred others from Lewis who were actually there and didn't get shitfaced?

machaseo said...

A simple, honest yes or no will suffice, Angus...did you or associates of yours (including journalists) have anything whatsoever to do with this story being published? You're blogging my posts, so you must be there somewhere!

Angus said...

Since you ask, NO I did not have anything to do with this.

I first heard the story about 6 weeks ago from a journalist who fingered the source as being the Labour Party. I understand it may have been circulating for some time before then.

In mid-March I tried to give advice to Mr MacNeil through one of his closest political associates as to how to deal with this.

About three weeks ago it was being actively repeated in the Members lounge at the Comhairle, but I was not getting the story directly, as I was still an SNP Councillor at that time.

I repeated the story to no-one and didn't know it was (1) true, and (2) going to be carried by any papers, until Sunday lunchtime.

machaseo said...

Thanks for the quick, clear reply Angus, and you don't need to name the journalist!

The irony of this situation is that it will, I believe, eventually work out in the SNP's favour...

Anonymous said...

I don't know why you bother Angus, Macho will undoubtedly call you a liar anyway.
I have to say, I wish he didn't bother posting on this forum at all. Tedium, fingerpointing and defensiveness in the extreme.

Anonymous said...

Machaseo,
If you truly believe that the fact our MP plied two young girls with alcohol, one under the legal drinking limit, invited them to his room and then made suggestive comments and engaged in heavy petting is going to work in the SNPs favour, I really don't know what planet you are on.
As a woman with a young family, I find Mr. MacNeil's actions disgraceful and unforgiveable and I am an SNP supporter.
I am just very glad that my own children haven't had to have any involvement with him and I hope that when his political career fails he is not allowed to return to work as a teacher.

machaseo said...

Hahaha! It's a busy day for you, Angus!

machaseo said...

Jings, I cannae keep up wi' all this!

http://www.hebrides.150m.com/page111.html

Anonymous said...

In other news...

Alasdair Allan today discovered second gear in his car.

Unfortunately, this happened at the same moment that Mr Salmond and several other members of the SNP were trying desperately to get into Mr Allans car, as it sped towards the next destination on the whistle-stop tour of the Outer Hebrides.

Mr Salmond and others received minor treatment for burns to their feet in Balivanich hospital before catching the flight home.

Anonymous said...

anon3.13 'As a woman with a young family....I am just very glad that my own children haven't had to have any involvement with him'

With respect Angus, it is very questionable indeed to allow comments like that on a blog.

Anonymous said...

Abair blog inntinneach a tha seo!
Tell me more, tell me more, tell me more.

Anonymous said...

Regardless of inaccurate reporting, Angus MacNeil has admitted that the story is true in his apology for his actions. And the fact remains that it was disgraceful behaviour, especially for someone who trumpeted his own integrity and family values so loudly in the run-up to the 2005 elections and since.

Anonymous said...

It's not the story that does for politicians, it's the cover-up. It wasn't Shetland (?) so where was it? And why does MacNeil admit to being in the wrong place with unspecified people for an unspecified event? Too pissed to remember?

Anonymous said...

Angus, were you at this freebie. Any idea who was?

machaseo said...

A comment from Iain Dale's blog

"It is a shame that the Daily Record/Sunday Mail tabloid has trodden a less cautious line and that the reputations of these two girls have been thrown to the wind in a pathetic attempt at a revenge hatchet-job."

Well, quite.

It does seem to be blowing up in the paper's face already. Poor old New Labour and their cronies...they can't even get smearing right.

The irony of the situation is that some people who will rub their hands with glee over Angus MacNeil's imminent downfall (yeah, right!!) will not have turned a hair at the exploitation of the girls involved by the newspaper journalists who 'promised anonymity' and who were, I bet, quite sober when they promised it!

And there is also the Big Question: who tipped off the newspapers?

Angus said...

No. I was invited and declined.

Your hints are unnecessary; I've already worked out where, when and the likely mole's identity.

The "errors" in the story appear to be very clever obfuscation to protect his identity.

Anonymous said...

Article on Gazette website:
http://www.stornowaygazette.co.uk/ViewArticle.aspx?ArticleID=2682380&SectionID=2629

It looks like the girls were misled by the reporter

Anonymous said...

Girls misled by reporter? Shock, horror. Girls deny story? No.

Anonymous said...

It's not the girls who were hurt by this story, but Angus MacNeil. Anyway, this has made no waves beyond the Highlands and Islands, until Parliament returns from recess. The Honourable Member for Na h-Eileanan Siar isn't going to have a nice time.

Anonymous said...

The people who suffer most from this will be the people of the Western Isles (and, hopefully, the Sunday Mail if the girls' families decide to sue them). It's sad when this level of 'journalism' is sunk to in what is purely a revenge attack on Mr. Macneil by New Labour, one of the most morally and ethically bankrupt governments this country has ever had. How much lower can they go? Let's wait and see over the next 3 weeks.

I think this could well backfire badly on Labour - in fact, from what I heard in Stornoway this morning, it already has.

With respect to the families unfortunately involved in this mess, the people's atention has not and should not be diverted from what has been going on in Lewis over the last five years, i.e. the windfarms fiasco, and in the wider world the incredible suffering wreaked on Iraq through Blair's and Bush's illegal war, (plus ID cards, 24-hour drinking, supercasinos,etc. etc.)

Having been fooled by these chancers in 1997, I for one will never vote New Labour again.

Anonymous said...

love the Skating Saudis

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machaseo said...

Bang! Was that a car backfiring?

Nope, it's New Labour again!

Anonymous said...

Now why did you remove that seemingly harmless rhona martin post (1:06 pm)?

Anonymous said...

Macneil should be locked up and the key should be thrown far away from underage girls

Anonymous said...

'Macneil should be locked up and the key should be thrown far away from underage girls'

I see the anonymous nutter is back.

'underage girls' - you've just got to laugh really. there seems to be no limit to the foolishness (and vindictiveness) of those whose only aim is revenge.

Anonymous said...

Alcohol is such a blight on our communities, and it is excellent that the SNP want to clamp down on supplies to underagers.

Perhaps MacNeil should read the SNP press releases.

Anonymous said...

I sincerely hope that voters in this island who have watched the ways things have been done in this island (hint: industrial-scale wind farms) will not let the malice and pettiness of some posters on this blog influence their voting choice on May 3rd.

I've a feeling though that this time around, people are a bit more savvy about what's going on.

Anonymous said...

Anonomous 3 seems to confuse the issue of underage 'heavy petting' with one where outright dishonesty by successive governments was practiced - what exactly is the link? Or has anonymous 3 forgotten it?

Anonymous said...

it is interesting that this has not - as far as i am aware - made national news. I heard the source of the story was a falling out between two lots of girls the second lot said - yes we'll confirm it but only if you don't mention our names - ah journalism... the only job more dishonest than politics.

Anonymous said...

It is indeed interesting that this story barely made a ripple anywhere except the local press in Lewis, a few blogs and of course the Sunday Mail itself, that bastion of truth, fairness and political balance.

I'd expected it to make the news on scottish tv for days on end, but nope, hardly anything...

Maybe it's been carefully managed to keep the effect intensely local, that was after all where the damage was aimed at, and not at Westminster??

Anonymous said...

"Barely made a ripple," thuirt Machaseo. What about Sky News? Also, check out the BBC website - top of the 'most read' news stories last Monday.

George Dutton said...

Taken from the SNP web site...

"It's time to keep healthcare local
The "SNP" will protect vital local health services, give the public a "say" in decisions on the future of local hospitals and do "more" to give young Scots the healthiest start in life."

Goes to show the GREAT gulf between socialists and the SNP if they were like us the above would have said this...

It's time to keep healthcare local
The "socialist" will protect vital local health services, give the public "the" decisions on the future of local hospitals and do "everything" to give young Scots the healthiest start in life.

It shows the mindset of the SNP and what is to come.
You just know that you are on a loser with the SNP.

bodach said...

Was it really Labour who 'outed' Mr MacNeil? Ah hae ma doots. The timing seems to suit the SNP more. Knowing the story's about to break, it's released on Easter weekend where news bulletins are shorter and more irregular than normal, people aren't working - and talking, and you've got your most experienced national politician on hand a day later to clean up the mess. And of course you give it to a Labour supporting newspaper when there's enough time for the story to be at least half-forgotten before the election.

Very convenient, isn't it?

Too convenient perhaps.

George Dutton said...

There are things we know we know.
We also know
There are known unknowns.
That is to say
We know there are some things
We do not know.
But there are also unknown unknowns,
The ones we don't know
We don't know.
But will know on May 4th.

Anonymous said...

bodach, that is one of the best unintentionally funny comments on this blog.

brahanseer said...

Perhaps it's machaseo who's the unintentional comedian!

This idea is quoted in a number of sources - including the Liberal Review website etc. And anyone aware of how SNP used to brief against, say, Margo MacDonald when she was an MSP for that very party would not dismiss the idea out of hand.

It's the ideal way of managing 'bad news' - practised by politicians for many generations. As anyone whose brains were not 'machaseo' would know!